3750 out of the barrel. I am by no means an expert, but if I had to take a guess (if you stick to the heavier bullets and moderate loads) somewhere around 1500+. My first 243 WSSM had just shy of 1K round through it and it shot just as well as it did when it was new. The .257 is the best of a … Velocities are about the same, with the WSSM actually burning less powder. Sounds like the ignorant rhetoric parroted by people without experience for the last two decades. There are dozens of .243 factory loads, in a wide variety of bullet weights and prices, from every ammunition manufacturer and .243 ammo is available wherever game is hunted. Product Description: Unprimed Brass. I reload for all my rifles and this one won't be the exception. Winchester offers two deer, antelope, and black bear loads for the .243 WSSM. A match grade barrel will also extend the life of the barrel. Cartridge : .243 WSSM Bullet : .243, 105, Hornady A-MAX 24562 Useable Case Capaci: 48.314 grain H2O = 3.137 cm³ Cartridge O.A.L. thanks in advance. 19 0 0. 243 Winchester Verse 22-250 Remington barrel life expectancy? I agree with Mele to a certain extent. Snow has found this extends brass life, … A match grade barrel will also extend the life of the barrel. I hope that your wife and surviving child are doing well. NIB for less than $400. I have a .243 WSSM in a mod 70 and one on order from dtech. I bought these several years ago and have never even put a bullet down any chamber. The Official Predator Masters Search Engine. Due to the extremely high velocities achievable with this cartridge, shortened barrel life can result depending on your load. Unlike the WSSM, the Hornady 6mm ARC was engineered around a long, high B.C. Running the heavy bullets i dont see why a person should not get real close to the same round count as a standard 243. Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.3. Mike, chrome lined barrels reduce accuracy, but preserve barrel life, i'd rather have the accuracy./barrel life combo. I was all ways at the understanding a lot of it was do to MV after seems to be 3500 and up is where you here it will be a barrel burnner. If you do a wssm search on some of the forums you will gain alot of knowledge. All rifles are at 95%+ condition from new. From what I can see the .243 WSSM has a case volume of 53 (compared to my 264 at 82). Now if you went with 55grs that would shoot one out pretty quick but that would be kind of a waste if you wanted 55gr i would shoot the 223. .243 caliber has been around since the fifties. It uses a .300 WSM (Winchester Short Magnum) case shortened and necked down to accept a .243in/6mm diameter bullet, and is a high velocity round based on ballistics design philosophies that are intended to produce a high level of efficiency. I've been shooting both the .243 and .25 WSSM quite a bit the last couple of years. Winchester. In addition, the .223 and .243 versions early on attained a reputation for quickly eroding the rifling in barrels. I was going to do it slightly differently as a wildcat on the .243 WSSM case, and neck it up to .264 or 6.5mm. Aug 19, 2011 #14/29 they come from wal mart he said he would sell for 500, oh by the way i was gone for a few days was in the hospital with my wife for 3 days. If you visit the Winchester website you can see data comparing the 243 WSSM to .22-250's and 220 Swift barrel life. I've been shooting a .243 WSSM for about a month now and I'm using a custom built Stratton barrel … 58 grain .243 I'm surprised that no one has mentioned hornday's 58 grain .243 round. The .243 Winchester is simply the .308 Winchester necked down to hold .243″ diameter bullets. .243 … There are so many great bullet choices for the 243 that makes it a great choice! The 22-250 will do everything a light weight .243 will do, just my personal taste. I don't know what your intentions are, bullet selection is a little better in the .243 verses the .25. Those things sold for $400 from Wal Mart. I think Jack and Deerhunterjj are talking the same thing, heavier bullet less powdie lighter more powdie. The 243 Win. I think the 243wssm would be awsome running 80 to 85gr bullets 95gr would be the max i would shoot. The .308—a fine design in and of itself—has been responsible for a number of successful cartridges, but the .243 has to be the most successful. i was reading my hornady seventh edition manual and it suggests the barrel life is very limited , if i were to buy it the primary use would be prarie dog hunting and paper shooting. is an outstanding caliber and for the gear head that I am the 243 WSSM is just as outstanding. ... Head diameter is .441”, a bit less than the .535" head of the short-lived 243 WSSM which was a lot faster than the ARC. Why dont you here warnings on barrel shoot outs on say 30-06 for example they run more powder then the wssms. The wssm was a failure like the rsaum. In this post, a continuation of Rifleshooter.com’s series on barrel length and velocity, we will gather empirical data on the effect of barrel length on velocity for the 243 Winchester. The .223, and .223 WSSM have a better ballistics coefficient of around .235 using 55 grain speer points where as the .204 is about .185. my friends dad has 2 .223 wssm winchesters new in the box he told me he would sell me one at a good deal, my question is how is the barrel life. does anyone have one that has burned out a barrel? Read the article, .243 (aka 6mm) is a STANDARD caliber size. It still shot one ragged hole if I did my part. I like flat base bulletes, I have spoke to some experts (which I am not) that boattails have a "blow by" which causes erosion. I do know awhile back this question was raised and mike him self going from my memory said out of all the rifles he has built in wssm he yet has had one come back with a shoot out barrel. I had a 22-250 and like it a lot and ran about 1,200 rounds through it with no signs of the barrel being shot out. 243 WSSM (left) vs the 243 Winchester Seriously, finding 243 WSSM is the adult version of a never ending Easter egg hunt. I'm sincerely sorry for your loss. If your barrel loses accuracy at the 1500-round mark, then it only worked for three seconds! For Sale: 25, 243 and 223 WSSM Winchester Model 70 Coyote In the pictures from top to bottom are the 25, 243 and 223. The barrel life will be the same with .243 WSSM & .243 Win, and .25 WSSM & .25-06. Don't get your rifle too hot. Stick to 75 grn and up and don't load them super hot. I have had several cases on … Dont heat up the barrel run med to heavy weight bullets and i dont see a guy haveing a problem keep it cleaned not every round but i like to clean after 25 to 30 and even then i only use a patch no brush until it starts losseing accuracy. The 243 WSSM uses a shortened 300 Winchester Short Magnum case necked down to accept a .243” / 6mm diameter bullet. Winchester (and Browning) recommend chrome lined barrels for longer barrel life. Unfortunately, I don’t think the situation is going to get better and it may well get worse. Barrel life will greatly depend on your bullet choice. Joined May 6, 2005 Messages 7,237 Likes 2,834 Location Maine. My hope was to load just the way you mentioned...heavier bullets moving at something below light speed. I just got done looking at several sites about barrel life for the .243 and there was alot of variation depending on how hot the barrel gets and the powders used etc. i guess my real question should be would i be better off not buying the wssm and investing in a good .257wby? The 243 is always in the middle. Actually, burning less powder and reaching similar velocities equals better efficiency and longer barrel life. From the data i have read the wssm is a littler faster but not by a whole lot. PatMcD. I don't think you can compare the WSSM's to the .223/5.56 in terms of barrel life. L6: 2.360 inch = 59.94 mm Barrel Length : 22.0 inch = 558.8 mm Predicted Data for Indicated Charges of the Following Powders. she gave birth to twins they were 10 weeks early and only one survived so tomorrow we will have a funeral so after this week our lives will settle down again. If you don't reload, wssm ammo is exspensive. Buy 243 WSSM Rifle Brass for Reloading at Midsouth Prices. rifles. The lowest price that I've seen on a Winchester/USRA 70 Super Shadow is on AA. if so how many shots is the life expectancy? The 55 grain bullets are going to give you dreadful barrel life and poor long-range performance. it is a model 70 super shadow package comes with scope and sling from new. What's a "miniscule" barrel life? 50 per bag of factory new Winchester unprimed 243 WSSM (243 Winchester Super Short Magnum) brass rifle cartridge cases.. RELOADING PREPARATION: Brass case mouths MAY not be perfectly round from the manufacturing process, this can be corrected by running brass through the size die (always recommended) prior to loading. Barrel life is likely to be about 1,000 rounds (if you are lucky) and the rifle can only be rebarreled for one of the WSSM cartridges - .223, .243 or .257. No, it's not a 6mm BR and it was never intended to be. I am sure this will start an argument. Winchester makes the highest quality ammunition components available to the reloader. Product Manufacturer: Winchester. Rating - 100%. Description. Shoot it once a year and it will last forever; shoot it 100 shots in a hour hour and you'll become good friends with barrel makers. It was the wildcatters who brought it back to life by fiddling with a couple of popular designs. Hope this helps, good luck. In Stock Product Number: R243WSSM. Also, if you read the article, you’d know that .243 WSSM is a very high performance, high energy, high velocity long-range precision and hunting cartridge that takes a umber of good features from other calibers and combines them in a way that no other cartridge does. And the latest cartridge to push this 6mm bullet does the job quite well. WNR243WSSM. I have heard stories of short barrel life. There is only one 6mm Creedmoor factory load (Hornady 103 grain ELD-X) and it is seldom encountered and premium priced. The 243 Win. It uses a shorter case than the .243 Winchester—1.920-inch vs. 2.045 inches—allowing for a longer bullet length outside the case in the same length magazine, and maintains the 6.5 Creedmoor’s 30-degree shoulder. Depends on how much you shoot it and how hot the barrel heats up. Stick to 75 grn and up and don't load them super hot. i was thinking about buying the gun and having it reworked into a .25wssm cuz the .25 caliber hole in my current arsenal is empty but now ive kinda fell in love with the .257wby so in addition i would also like to hear the pros and cons between those two .25 calibers . Make the ammo you want with Rifle Brass from Hornady, Berger, Hornady, Nosler, Sierra, and more for sale at Midsouth was and still is the 308 Winchester (detailed in this article) necked down to 24-caliber, just as the 260 Rem. is the 308 Win. The short answer is that, unless you get one of the few Winchesters that made it out of the factory w/o the hard chrome lining (no s/n range, just seemingly-random QC problem), the WSSMs' barrels will last noticeably. case necked down to 26-caliber, albeit with a slightly longer body to prevent accidental chambering in 243 Win. I've been interested in a .243 WSSM on an ar platform for some time now and have been perusing Dtech's site a bit lately. Of course, if you are shooting a “long-lived” .308 Win that goes 5000 rounds before losing accuracy, then you get a whopping TEN seconds of barrel life. thanks alot guys appreciate all the thoughts and advice. The WSSM's were not designed as a military round or for a gun shooting high volumes of rounds. Barrel life should actually be a little better than the standard 243 due to the brass/neck dimensions. I already have a .264 WM which is hard on the barrel, but I like the caliber. $40.01. The new .243 WSSM, the subject of this article, is one of the original WSSM calibers. The 243 Winchester Super Short Magnum or 243 WSSM is a rifle cartridge introduced in 2003. my friends dad has 2 .223 wssm winchesters new in the box he told me he would sell me one at a good deal, my question is how is the barrel life. You might want to save this somewhere, they seem to move it around alot. I do understand that different cart use different burn rates of powder for a reason. The seller is "wholesalehunter", somewhere in MO. Wrong marketing and too many short mags to choose from all at the same time. The 223 and 243 wssm were plagued by the extreme overbore lack of performance along with the 500rd barrel life. I have been shooting 87 grain HPBT … Copyright © 2000-2020 24hourcampfire.com, Inc. All Rights Reserved. jack question not trying to start a pissing match or anything just wanting to understand a little more. The person shooting the WSSM probably won't be using the round for training and exercises where hundreds of rounds will be fired in a few hours. NES Member. It's my favorite varmint round but I must admit it's much more economical to shoot 22-250. What model of Winchester/USRA 70 and at what price? If people desire a .243 AI chamber, then there's a reason for the .243 WSSM. Lower velocity means less flame and heat for longer barrel life. I hear you can get 3,000 to 4,000 rounds out of a 22-250 Remington. Barrel life will greatly depend on your bullet choice. The 25 WSSM is the lighter colored rifle more of a nutmeg color. How you shoot your rifle will also play apart. If you don't reload, wssm … Go to AA and search on "super shadow 223 WSSM". Concerns about short barrel life are a common problem for high-velocity cartridges, making the WSSM rounds no different than other high-velocity cartridges. They make great all around hunting rifles for situations where you may need to make a long shot or may be jumping game in brush. The .223 WSSM will out shoot the .204 ruger by quite a bit. That said, the WSSM’s were not designed primarily as “youth” cartridges therefore the rifle stocks of both the Browning and Winchester need to be shortened to suit. As a last reiteration, the 6mm’s excel on game weighing between 40 and 60kg (90-130lb) and at the limit of versatility on game weighing 80kg (180lb) or up to 100kg (220lb) when utilizing the Barnes projectiles in hand loads. The .243 WSSM's virtually the same as a .243 Ackley Improved. One of these is a Supreme load using a moly coated 95 grain Ballistic Silvertip bullet (BC .379, SD .230) at a muzzle velocity (MV) of 3250 fps and muzzle energy (ME) of 2258 ft. lbs. Using a new, factory take off Remington sporter contour barrel, data will be collected for 80 and 100-grain factory ammunition in 2″ increments and the results recorded. Winchester 243 WSSM Brass (Bag of 50) Winchester 243 WSSM Brass (Bag of 50) Permanent Link to Product Page. My daughter shot her 25 wssm about 350 times and the barrel was still OK prior to sale (she adopted my Sako .308). I don't believe the WSSM … I can't attest to their veracity. Maybe someone with more subject specific knowledge can offer some thought. Many a deer has fallen to a .243/6mm diameter bullet throughout the years. Amount of powder compared to bore diameter, lots of powder+small bore equals short life. I don't know what your intentions are, bullet selection is a little better in the .243 verses the .25. Not much experience with the .223 WSSM but I shoot a .243 WSSM in 55 grain for antelope and 95 grain for whitetails and man it really really really sucks to find ammo for it! 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